http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7559392

Mike will be back with the Falcons in no time.

I’ll take the cons (-21 1/2) for a dime……

God bless and good night, make sure that house is nice and clean!

Its take a lot of money to even fund a dogfighting operation in an urban area and to tie that with young black males as many people have asserted is BS in the highest form. And people like Whitlock, Drew Sharpe and white reporters who really don’t know what they are talking about and trying to lay Hip- Hop at fault for Vick dogfighting without taking down the whole operation in those states to me strikes as Goodwin and Newkirk’s attempt to get the feds involved before the local D.A. gave Vick a misdermeanor. I wouldn’t give White America and their black aplogists the satisfaction of an apology, Richard Ramriez got off lighter than what Vick is doing like losing 142 million, your career and reputation.

FUCK THEM, MOST WHITE AMERIKKKANS ARE NEVER SATISFIED THEY WANT TO MAKE BLACK MEN EUNCHS.

This wynter lady sounds like she is right. I would be more angry at the absurd animal laws than at the Vick getting jailed.

Do u live here in Atlanta? Black Conservative Shelley Wynter (1380) is on talking about Vick, how he and other black athletes are not targeted, that we as black folks, knowing the rules, shouldn’t break them, many people of all races are going to jail for dogfighting, etc, etc, etc.

Some people care a lot, that’s the problem. If they didn’t care, there wouldn’t be so many damn tabloids. People are nosy and enjoy revelling in others suffering, how else do you explain rubberneckers on the freeway? ‘Ohhh… an accident, is some one dead… slow down and let me watch this person in abject misery… let’s drive slow and stare at them….’

So, you may not care what an athlete does on their spare time, I don’t care what they do on their spare time, but somebody obviously does. And the more they suffer, apparently the happier it makes some people. And the gist of TSF (generally) is that more blacks make it for bad news than whites, even though there is plenty of examples people screwing up on both sides. So, if you’re black, you could come to the conclusion that there is a certain segment of the population that likes to paint blacks as a collective bad, and enjoys watching black athletes fall.

I felt more like boney in the past, that blacks are just being too sensitive. But I talked to my boy, who is black and generally avoids these kind of discussions (I’ve been trying to bait him for years), and he echoed the sentiments held by many here. So I figured I’d reevaluate and try to view from his angle. He’s been like my big brother for years (old mf’er), and has never steered me wrong. We’ve had many discussions over the years and he’s never played any ‘race cards’, so he gets the benefit of the doubt from me.

AMEN!

The funny thing is, that is the personification of the American attitude….in asking that question to Boney, you perfectly summed up the United States of America….”I know what’s best for you”.

She simply said that it’s ridiculous for somebody to say they “get it” when they discuss discrimination against black people, and then turn around and seek to prove that discrimination really isn’t that much of a problem for athletes. Well, not that much of a problem for Vick, Tank, Chris Henry and Pacman because the broke the rules.

See that ignores the fact that everybody who breaks the rules isn’t treated the same, which is at the heart of complaints of most people here. When you ignore that, it’s a problem.

I’m not sure all the king’s horses and all the king’s men can ever put the pieces back together for Donovan McNabb in Philadelphia. Some things just can’t be fixed, and the more I watch No. 5, the more I think the best thing that could happen to him is a fresh start in a different color jersey in 2008.

• If you’re an Eagles fan, how are you feeling these days knowing that Jeff Garcia will be leading the Bucs into the playoffs next month, while McNabb and Philly sit out the postseason?

That comment firmly places the blame for the Eagles poor performance on who? And I wonder, does that seem fair to anyone? And this is not an isolated opinion. Peter King said basically the same thing yesterday.

I think its unfair to play the your not black card on him to end a discussion instead of coming at him on the issue.

YOu both seem to be intent on minimalizing the racials aspect of any incident. Now, there are people here who always bring race to the forefront of every discussion, but far more people to honestly consider the situation and then discuss race if it is warranted.

But hey, what do I know. It’s just my opinion.

You and I always differ in that I don’t understand you consistent choice to protest the comments and rhetoric used here on this website, while simulataneously saying that you don’t bother to do the same at ESPN or whereever because it’s just opinions.

See, I don’t get that. I don’t get how one set of opinions deserves your attention and comment and the other doesn’t. If it’s all just “opinions” why not just ignore all of it? Why do you feel the need to comment on the opinions expressed here, and consistently take the role of devil’s advocate, when you don’t feel that same compulsion on deadspin or ESPN.

That’s what bothers me in my discussions with you. You seem to try to suppress certain discussions, while letting others run wild. I can’t understand your motives behind that.

It’s clear that you are intelligent, that you have some understanding of the realities of the world. Yet you seem intent on telling black people to get over things, to not let things bother them, to view things objectively and avoid the racial charged rhetoric. I can’t understand why you do that on this predominantly black site, yet don’t do it on the white sites you visit?

I didn’t say that. What are you reading? He needs to know what it’s like to be black then maybe he would understand where we are coming from. Be quiet! You need to get off of Fantasy Island. Those conservative politicians you support don’t give a damn about you!

You need to get over that racism and open your eyes.

Personally, I think Boney is spot on a great deal of the time.

For 1 day I want you to find a make up artist and become black in appearance. Watch how you are treated and how your life is different.

Then we can talk. As long as you view life through you white eyes, you will never see or understand what we are talking about.

If you re-read through the column here, the crux of my entire venom was at a part where Zirin says he was in Oakland around people that are involved in pit fights and don’t give it a second thought. It doesn’t matter that “everyone does it”, what matters is that it’s illegal. It’s the old “the person who retaliates on a suckerpunch gets caught” deal… Just because they haven’t been caught doesn’t mean others haven’t been.. He’s also slamming the “Sports Gals” opinion on putting Vick in a cage with dog fighters and starving him like he starved dogs, and while I get it, noone here seems to think that all of this slamming back and forth and pushing our voices to be heard are doing basically the same thing that a Bill Simmons or a Colin Cowherd do…

sure, a michelle will get on here and comment about how DavidMac and I or whoever are all ignorant and throw up some argument in capital letters back to us that we have to respond to but… doesn’t Colin Cowherd do the same thing? sure, an Allen will get on here and go back and forth with me even though we’re talking about the same thing, but isn’t that what Mike and Mike do? It’s all about platform…

I don’t necessarily agree 100% with this “whites view whites as individuals, whites view blacks as a group” pushed back at me when my statement is questioned. I honestly believe that if you slammed up a poll that asked the following simple question: “Do you honestly care about what athletes do in their free time?” and don’t even put a color on it, majority would answer no. Why? Because it’s entertainment, Britney Spears, entertainment! Paris Hilton entertainment to some! Who gives a crap about what these people do except for those that put up an opinion to garner ratings? Honestly… who cares? Aside from the writers that have to deal with these guys occasionally, none of us will ever meet Michael Vick. I met him, he seemed like a cool kid (I met him in high school), but I’m not going to slam him because what he does and what I do are 2 different things! He did something illegal, and just like if I got caught doing something illegal, I’d expect you to throw a book at me. But then again, I’m white…

I don’t know who posted this, but my apologies for hijacking it a bit…

Your boy (and I don’t mean that in any way other than a friendly way) dwil posted a piece comparing sports entertainment to slavery either last night or today. While I think it’s well written, I think it’s totally off base, and not because it’s about blacks either. It’s about a choice that we/they make as human beings about what we/they want to do to support themselves for the rest of their lives. I chose to pursue a career in construction management rather than heal my shoulder and play DIII baseball and struggle to make it. I chose to finish college and get a degree like most of us probably have, rather than pursue a career in athletics. A greater percentage of these athletes have chosen to make this lifestyle their life! They choose to be in the public spotlight and just like in politics, you screw up, you get opinions thrown at you. They chose to be on that plantation, and they knew going into it how they were going to get paid because they should’ve seen how others have been treated.

I agree with a lot of people here that piss and moan about how it seems a group of people are more worried about dogs than our soldiers in Iraq. It’s absolutely pathetic, to be brutally honest. But if those same groups were not allowed to be founded and/or made, then I hate to say it, but I feel that a lot of the same people that don’t like PETA would fight for a PETA if the government didn’t allow it because everyone here is all about equal, which is great. That’s what makes this country great… it’s a shame it takes a black professional athlete being yelled at by a bunch of white soccer moms outside of a courthouse to realize what makes this country great.